DJ wow. but where is Phil?

Would love to see the world ranking points given out for the event.

Let’s see if Jay will actually ban him now.

dbenick3 zero they aren't recognized yet

Gonna go ahead and recuse myself from this thread lol

iennis I mean they are going to have to if they give tigers 20 person field points. I mean the usga and r&a should have no dog in this fight.

dbenick3 I don't think its a we don't like your league so F u. Its a thing of it taking a year before you are recognized in the process of applying. Of course LIV probably doesn't have their paperwork in order seeing it took them this long to list people who will be in the first event.

iennis from what I have gathered. Liv is actually well run just Norman as the face is the dumb move.

I’m honestly surprised. No Bryson. No Adam Scott no kokrak. rickie I thought was going to be their big surprise name

The LIV Tour Discussion Thread

Eddie

Looking at the top 20 in the fedex cup, doesn't seem to have anyone that would appear to jump ship, who hasn't already.

The only player I could guess would jump of relevance would be Fleetwood maybe?

I'm ok with watching DJ, Koepka, and Ooooosty for now, only PGA tour player I miss is Rory, but I can always flip over when he shows up at a tournament, and since Eldrik plays 4 times a year, not much else.

iennis

If Cam Smith goes to LIV he will turn out to be like every other Aussie to win a Major. A fluke that cant get it done but once.

Eddie

iennis

Just a rumor or did I miss something?

ckay

My man Feherty going to LIV too.

Eddie

ckay

as quirky as feherty is, he will sure be better than the premiere league announcer that says how much money and how many people are at the event every 5 minutes.

ForeLeft

I thought Gooch went LIV, and the players who played were removed from Rankings?

cwboylan

ForeLeft I believe its only those who have resigned from the tour that are gone from the Cup Rankings.

iennis

Eddie Rumor, but from what I am hearing they are doing a aussie team with leish scott and cam. Of course him winning the open could have changed his plans. Even the NLU guys weren't saying no on this one though so could be more then rumor.

Eddie

iennis

No kidding, not that the USAToday is a credible news source, but still it made their front page...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2022/07/19/liv-golf-cameron-smith-rickie-fowler-caught-swirling-speculation/10094266002/

iennis

Eddie So it looks like 3 people will join live this week and then 7 more if I read Greg Normans release correctly. He said they have stopped accepting new signings this year.

OffTheDole

Jason Kokrak 🥴 , Henrik Stenson 🤔 , and Charles Howell III 🤯

iennis

OffTheDole So no one anyone cared about. Was really all the hype they were talking about.

dbenick3

iennis I mean it is only a matter of time before the world ranking points come.

iennis

dbenick3 That's not that easy, they will have to make many changes to their format to qualify. Plus all these guys world rankings are going to drop to the gutter. So even if they do get points they wont have enough ranking in the fields to propel them to the majors(for the ones that aren't exempt). So essentially if they want to play majors they will have to play more golf I guess on the Asian tour. Which is exactly what all of the sited for joining that they dont want to do. (ohh and grow the game henrik stenson is a idiot)

dbenick3

iennis from what I heard it won't be small world rankings points if they do get it. The example would be tigers tourney with half the players. Plus format, if 4 rounds was the difference. I don't think any of those guys will complain if it meant them staying in the majors.

dbenick3

48 points for tigers tourney (20 players), 26 for this week's 3m(full field). That is why it is important for liv to get as many as top 100 guys they can.

iennis

dbenick3 Yeah but that's just the problem these guys aren't going to be top 20 anymore if they don't get points. There is a year application process which could take even longer. In just a year these guys world ranking is going to go in the gutter. Wait till its only the guys with exemptions playing majors that will be the only way to get points for a whole year. The Hero is the one Tournament not a tour.

dbenick3

iennis hero, every wgc event. I would bet a good amount of money on that there we be world ranking points next year. To many top players to fail at this point. All this and we also haven't gone down the rabbit hole of the pga is going to probably lose their ass in court. People are going to realize the pga isn't as clean as everyone thinks it is.

iennis

dbenick3 There is one wgc now not a factor. In one year these top players wont be top ranked anymore is the point I am making twice now. Their points will go down and go down quick of this stretch with no were to play. There is like 5 maybe 6 guys on LIV golf that are considered top players and stars maybe 2 right now. Litigation will be interesting, assuming everyone will wait to see what the DP world tour does then sue the PGA. So talking a year longer with no points except majors.

Growing the game you think LIV is doing this? What charity do they work with? did they just hold the adaptiveopen that can show people handicaps don't exclude you from golf? Do they support the first tee program to bring people who wouldn't normally pick up a club and play. The many many more other charitable things they do. You can like LIV that's fine but don't make it to be the end all be all for golf. Its money sportwashing pure and simple.

dbenick3

and I don't want to hear they don't grow the game argument. Professional golf doesn't grow the game.

dbenick3

iennis I don't think liv is growing the game. I also don't think the pga tour grows the game. Was the pga tour so charitable before tiger? The first tee would go on without the pga tour. Don't confuse the pga tour, pga of America, and the usga. The usga ran the adaptive open.
One could say the pga tour is money washing with how bad it was 30 years ago. Less 1% of pga of America club pros are black. Golf is still generally an upper middle class white game.