I have to say I used to be a big Cameron guy but I feel like his brand has become stale. The retail line has gotten better but his accessories are no where near the smaller boutiques. I have also seen a lot of my friends who were die hard Cameron fans turn to other brands too. With more people going towards mallets does he try and cater to that line even though that is not his bread and butter? With all of these smaller boutique putter makers coming up you can have a custom putter built from scratch now. Does that take away from his line since you can no longer order a custom circle T? I think that in the end the Cameron name will always be the gold standard but I think he is starting to lose the people who got him to where he is today.

The rise of social media (especially IG) has helped the "small guys" a ton. Just think about the number of custom putter makers like Goodwood that have come up in the past few years. Heck, you can get a completely custom GSS Anser 2 from Kingston for 670.

I agree Don. I still roll a Scotty and haven't wavered in 10 years, but his Brand is not what it once was. My collection is in storage, but most is going to be sold as soon as it comes out. I'm just thankful that I have met so many people I now consider friends over the last 10 years all due to the Scotty Brand.

I lost interest in Cameron several years ago though I will say I was never a collector of his putters. I've had several over the years but never collected them. I did collect covers for a bit but sold them all. I'm all about the small boutique maker these days.

When it comes to putters I have a simple rule. Have I ever met the designer of the putter and talked shop? Do I like the putter and his company? If the answer is yes then I'll buy it. I'd like to think that I am not a one trick pony even though a Scotty is in the bag 98% of the time. As for the brand being stale I can understand it from a headcover perspective but did it become stale because he changed or did our own tastes change leaving us desiring more? It would seem like it's going stale because he still does the same thing that built the brand. I'm still drinking the Cameron Kool-Aid even though my own personal tastes have changed over the years.

I still roll an SC and agree with @Putterho above in that meeting him, talking shop, and meeting tons of people on this forum through his brand (thanks for the Masters visor @dphatt !) are big reasons why I will still be a fan. I didn't join TCC for 2 years because I don't really care for all his covers anymore, the stand bags just got out of control to get and I would end up selling them admittedly to fund other purchases because I don't collect bags. I didn't want to be a flipper so I just stopped even trying to get the stuff. I got the TCC welcome bag this year because I wanted the den caddie because I needed something to put all my headcovers in and I thought it was a steal for $100. I haven't even been online for a release this year though because I know ultimately the stuff wont be for me. Also helps that PM polos never have fit me in a Small so I'm never tempted there. Some of the t-shirts I like but my buddy lives down in La Jolla and can always swing by the shop for me if needed. Once I landed my grail Timeless with Tungsten I knew I didn't really need anything else from a putter perspective since I game everything I own. I will say that at some point I may go to him for a putter fitting because the staff there is great and I wouldn't mind having someone tell me what the hell I should be playing if it's going to help me sink putts haha. I think naturally since a lot of the homies here have put me on to other brands like SSC, TBC, RTS, Mac, etc. I was more inclined to support smaller businesses that listen to the consumer a bit more (no knock on SC he is running a majorly profitable business). Also like @Golfingfanatic says.....IG has made it so the smaller guys can access us degenerates....I mean connoisseurs....so we can try out different things that suit us. Scotty's IG game is just weak for the most part......

I agree, I enjoy Club Cameron still as it fills the gaps with some release hype. I rarely purchase but I enjoy the hype on release days. The membership swag justifies the cost of membership. His designs are meh at this point. The smaller guys are leaving him behind. Swag does an incredible job. TBC has some good releases as well. Those are the only two I really follow. Scotty's putters, retail or not are still very nice.

I’ve strayed far away, haven’t purchased anything non OTR putter wise for quite some time. Still like the putters, other merch not as much because it has become stale for me. Some of that “staleness” I think is well beyond Scotty’s control and some of it is I have simply moved on to other brands that I find more interesting.

Jaybananapantsarthur pretty much the same for me. Well put.

I must say though, a good chunk of my collection that I sold off a couple years back helped fund purchasing my 1968 Chevelle SS!

The putters were great until I leaned how to putt. I’m not sure I’ll ever leave the Spider, even though I always look around. It’s ugly but, it works really well for me. I’m not saying Spiders are the king, I’m just saying they’re the king for me and my game. I’d love to game a 009 or Concept 1 or a shlong neck etc... but I know I never will. Would love an Indy Tiffany CT in the bag but, it won’t happen. SC is an incredible dude, very nice, and pretty funny. His brand? Well, he’s a wild card, always has been design wise.

Scotty Cameron Brand

dphatt

TFixer5 he is starting/ or has lost the people who got him to where he is but it doesn’t matter bc he can bring out pure trash on a website from 2000 and still sell out stuff

mljones99

Scotty Cameron is much like my previous employer Hermes of Paris. We could have taken a dump in a plastic bag, put an Hermes logo on it and still have a waiting list to buy it. Then when your name was called we could make you bark like a dog and make you walk through the mall with a sign that "I'm an idiot" for 20 minutes and you'd still come back to the store and pay 5 grand for that bag of shit.

Scotty can literally churn out crap and people will buy it regardless so I don't see his motivation to change anything.

Noyes26

Everyone saying he can post anything and it sells out... yes and no. This is my first year in prob 7 or 8 of not getting the club cameron. The new covers were just doing nothing for me and I took a stand haha. But I’d say last year had the most releases that did not sell out and made it to the non club members.

there were those black covers on the site for weeks and weeks.

ckay

TFixer5 yeah man all of the bellyaching on the other site and how the designs suck, meanwhile those same people are the ones who post up confirming that they were able to check out successfully with nearly the entire release of items. “Clip Art” Don at it again! BUT, that won’t stop me from dropping a G note to get my fix! I’m just glad there are other options for those that are interested in creative items. While I’m not the biggest purchaser of items, I love seeing all of these small brands pop up and show their creativity. It’s awesome and I hope they find enough success to keep their path going.

ForeLeft

If I'm being honest... I actually don't mind this. I would game.

https://www.scottycameron.com/articles/scottys-custom-shop-introducing-johnny-racer/

mljones99

ForeLeft i don't hate it

dphatt

ForeLeft I wish it wasn’t a red cover

ekaj

I don’t understand why he still uses Velcro and AM&E head covers

ckay

ekaj I never had an issue with Velcro, but after getting TBC covers that are magnetic, I now know what everyone has been bitching about for the last decade.

TFixer5

ekaj Completely agree. After using the covers from EP with magnets, I can't see ever buying a Cameron cover agan.

ForeLeft

ckay I think the manufacturer has a big part to do with that too. EP’s magnets are hands down better than the completion too.

ForeLeft

Can we also talk about the nickel and diming shit show that is the custom shop? I played around On there today for fun thinking I’d buy an old studio select (circa 2008) for fun and have it refinished. $648 later!

holy crap. With all these guys coming out with refinishing services, idk how they get away with those prices. Just buy new!

ckay

ForeLeft a restoration back in the day was $95 😂

dphatt

This is the first time I have ever tried for a Wednesday release putter. Talk about nearly impossible to get. Cameron’s website has to be one of the worst in the industry.

ckay

dphatt Crazy that they’re selling out instantly again. A few months back you had your pick of the litter and could cart something easily.

Putterho

dphatt What putter were you even after? Nothing fits your usual Jam.

Moni_SLO

dphatt first time for me as well, went on to try and help @bvan303 out to snag the Chromo timeless....and whiffed. There are definitely bots....Petey must be cooking! 😉

KDBeach

dphatt I had the Chromatic blue in my cart but lost it as well.

dphatt

Putterho the Chromatic blue and the Phantom 5.5

raywutang

this one? https://www.scottycameron.com/store/product/3620/

question for this type of finish. even though the Chromatic Blue finish is applied, it is still raw correct?