Shaft Advice/Search

Kirsch

Let me start by saying I am not a shaft expert and always look for advice on what to play. Recently, I played with @dphatt and someone in our group had a epic flash sub zero with a Diamana W Series 50 X Flex. I hit it and of course it was gold. The problem is, this shaft is hard to find. So, first question is, does anyone have one for sale? Second question is, does anyone know if there is something similar?

I currently game the Epic with Rogue Max 65 Stiff and my miss has been left. @dphatt mentioned I need something stiffer and most likely need a whole new set up! I do have an Epic Flash but not the sub zero.

the Diamana is low launch low spin torque 4.0 60g. Any input is appreciated. I know it’s tough without track man numbers or seeing my swing...

thanks!!!

Eddie

CKirsch

I played the W60 for a year and a half and although on paper, the tensei white should be similar, I feel they don't feel the same. I would say the DF shaft line is pretty close to the W series, so although it's probably the obvious answer, DF50 might be the ticket.

Roland

If you can find someone with Wishon shaft software you may be able to find comparable flex profiles

Golfingfanatic

Diamana W is a Japanese market version of the white board profile.

Diamana D+
Diamana Ahina
Diamana DF
OG Whiteboard

Are all going to be similar

Kirsch

Golfingfanatic thanks for your feedback!

ForeLeft

I found the Accra S3 fitting software to be Phenomenal if you can get access to it. Will compare any amount of shafts and give you anything you need to know about them. EI profiles (actual numbers for each section if the shaft), launch number in relation to 0, frequency, torque, and lots lots more. I loved using it to compare shafts to what I hit the best to make sure something would still fit my profile

Kirsch

ForeLeft that sounds nice. My issue would be getting access to it.

ForeLeft

CKirsch I still have full access to it. Let me know whatever you are looking at and/or want to compare and I will send you data and charts for whatever you need. Subject Matter Expert! lol.

ForeLeft

Manufacturer MITSUBISHI
Model DIAMANA W 50
Flex X
Type Wood
Mass (g) 58.94
Length (in) 46.00
Butt OD (in) 0.600
Tip OD (in) 0.330
Parallel Length (in) 3.00
Butt EI 94.82
Mid EI 41.49
Tip EI 22.04
S3 Launch (deg) 0.27
S3 Launch MID
Frequency CPM 264.49
Torque (deg) 3.81
Balance Point (in) 23.66
Manufacturer SKU MX360-WX-1C
Graphite True
Parallel Tip True
Current True
Release Date 2013-09-30
Production End Date

Kirsch

ForeLeft wow this is amazing! Thank you! My issue is that I have no idea what is comparable. I would be interested in seeing the difference in the W 60 vs W50. Is there is way to plug in the W50 X flex and have it spit out similar options? The issue I am running into is that the shaft is older so the inventory is low. Thanks again!

ForeLeft

CKirsch

Here's the data for the 60. I can compare things against anything true temper/accra/project x.

I have the basic package, so I don't have ability to find something comparable or compare mulitple NON TT shafts, but I can help show stats for a target shaft VS. anything from TT... So like the W 60 VS. hulk Green, RPG, Tz5, Tz6 all in one chart is possible, but not two Mitsubishi shafts, as I can only have 1 target shaft. Hope this is helpful.

Manufacturer MITSUBISHI
Model DIAMANA W 60
Flex X
Type Wood
Mass (g) 66.53
Length (in) 46.00
Butt OD (in) 0.600
Tip OD (in) 0.330
Parallel Length (in) 3.00
Butt EI 95.24
Mid EI 43.51
Tip EI 24.01
S3 Launch (deg) -0.06
S3 Launch MID
Frequency CPM 268.65
Torque (deg) 2.83
Balance Point (in) 24.05
Manufacturer SKU MX316-WX-1C
Graphite True
Parallel Tip True
Current True
Release Date 2013-09-30

Kirsch

ForeLeft you are the man! Thank you so much for doing this. As I said before, I am no expert so a lot of these numbers and graphs mean nothing to me - I really need to work on educating myself more and understanding this data. The fact that you took the time to do this speaks volumes. Thank you.
I think what might be best for me is to get fit and try a bunch of different shafts.
Can you run the numbers on the Rogue Max 65S? Thats my current gamer. Wonder how it compares to the Diamana.

ForeLeft

CKirsch I think what might be best for me is to get fit and try a bunch of different shafts.

This is best case scenario and always recommended. Going to some place like Club Champ, TXG, or true spec that has trackman/GC quad to show you empirical data on the gold standards of launch monitors. and then ask for them to send you the data.

if you can't get fit: The best thing I can recommend is to figure out the time you hit driver the absolute best. Identify that shaft, and then try to find a shaft that has a similar EI profile. Doesnt need to be exact, but roughly the same and you should be close enough!

will run the rouge numbers shortly.

ForeLeft

CKirsch Rogue Max 65S

What Rogue?

Kirsch

It's the Rogue Max 65S - one of the standard offerings in the Callaway Epic Driver.

ForeLeft

CKirsch The software might be for aftermarket shafts only.