I don’t trust any of the things I read anywhere else, so let’s create our own base of info about the 2021 drivers that are coming out. Feel free to compare or provide any insight, as informal as it may be, and also let’s see what each of us starts with and ends up with by the end of the year. The obvious contenders are the Epic line, SIM2, g425, Tsi, Srixon, etc.... I got to see the 425 LST head and ugh, it sets up really well. I still think my fall back this year will be the Tsi3 in 10 degree. Going to be able to test the SIM2 pretty thoroughly soon as well.

Looking forward to the reviews. I’m not a chronic upgrader of the driver. The only reason I have a SIM is because TM replaced an M6 for me and I requested a SIM over the Max.

I’ve been a G400max Ho the last couple years. I did not jive with the G410 so I went and stockpiled backups in the 9* and 10.5* heads. There has just been too much hype from the G425 users that I am going to give the LST and the Max a go this week. Stay Tuned .....

Ping G425Max and LST head I have hit both heads extensively now and I will say I have ordered one of these. The LST is noticeably smaller than the Max and it is very low spin. I almost have trouble spinning the 10.5 enough to stay in the air. The LST also is a little more muted than the Max. I am going to go with the Max because I can get the swing weight down to something more reasonable with the lighter weight. The LST comes with either a 14g or 17g weight while the Max comes with the 23g weight. The Max head with the 14g weight head came in at 193.5 which works well with the 45.5 cut length that I will be playing it at. Epic Speed Epic Max The shape of the Epic Speed reminds me more of the Subzero and it has a good amount of bulge and roll. The spin was relatively low but it definitely had more left bias for me which I do not prefer. The Max head looks like the Ping G425Max. Just big and forgiving but the spin was not as low as I would like it to be. I think the LS head would be the one I would be looking at but they did not have the demo in stock for me to try. Srixon ZX5 and 7 From a looks perspective these look really good but they super low spin. All I could get were knuckleballs. Srixon should put these at $450 to under cut the competition. At $529 there are way too many options for people to even consider a Srixon driver. SIM2 #staytuned

dphatt I think the LS head would be the one I would be looking at but they did not have the demo in stock for me to try. Is the LS head now more like the triple diamond instead of the SZ head?

I’m looking forward to trying out the Epic Speed. I like the traditional look & the potential of some added forgiveness. We’ll see if it can knock the TS3 out of the bag.

Eddie I am waiting to see how the LS looks. There will be a Epic Speed Triple Diamond that will come to retail. It will have the usual subzero front and back weight.

There are actually three different triple diamond heads on tour apparently. Callaway has gone a bit mad imo with all these heads.

Golfingfanatic just like the good ole TaylorMade days

I feel like there has always been a hot driver or two every year for the past decade. This is the year that I feel like there could be 5 legitimate big dogs. I sort of wish I had that club champion/tourspec adapter on my shaft so I could try a lot of different heads but we all know that I'll just buy 4 shafts and different adapters. Problem is finding more of my beloved 5 year old Accra Tour Z shafts. Eddie's paintsplash Accra will have a the Ping G410/425 adapter on it momentarily in hopes that its the gamer. It has always been my interchangeable go to when the tempo got quick since it worked better for whatever reason.

2021 Community Driver Chronicles

DaHOF

dphatt I'm between trying the LS and the "regular" max. I'm not sure a fade biased driver would be a bad thing for me given my propensity of going left. The standard Mavrik though is doing fine for me.

dphatt

DaHOF tbh I would wait for the Epic Speed Triple Diamond in April

DaHOF

dphatt Or, I can just continue to be impatient and go completely opposite and order the Sim 2 😅

dphatt

DaHOF or be like me and have 5 drivers before the season starts

DaHOF

dphatt That would be impossible as my season is year round... (hugs and kisses)

dphatt

DaHOF Giphy - angry andy richter GIF by Team Coco

epyon

dphatt I actually got fit into this club surprisingly over the weekend. I didn't love the look, but it outperformed everything else I hit that day. They matched it up with a Ventus blue 5s. Quick question.... would I be able to get away with finding a 6s and keeping the club at the same swing weight, or should I just go with the fitter's recommendation to get the 5s? The fitting was a splurge so I am trying to see if I can find parts to piece my set together myself, but I never see 5s in any BST channels. Apparently, I need to find 4 Ventus blues, and pro 95 for my irons too 😆 .

dphatt

epyon stick with what you were fit for. The Ventus Blue 5s is one of the very few sub 60g shafts with not too much torque.

ckay

Any comments on what could help me produce better results other than adding speed? Speed will come back as I play.

SIM 9*
Standard setting
HZRDUS RDX Blue 60TX tipped .75
44.75” playing length

dphatt

ckay you have it set on 7 iron. That will skew your numbers. Other then that the launch angle is the only thing I would change. Needs to be a touch higher

Moni_SLO

ckay better results than 317 straight drives? God damn I suck at golf.

KentonQ

dphatt would you typically recommend above 14.5* launch with driver? Or was that based on the question because @ckay is looking for better results (which I assume is distance)?

ckay

Does the club setting matter? Never knew that. Loft was what I was thinking as well. I can’t control the ball when it is on the ground.

dphatt

ckay club setting matters. It normally messes the spin numbers. You also have the ball set at Soft which will also effect spin numbers

ckay

Moni_SLO I have some issues with start line and how much my ball is curving. Playable on modern courses, but start putting me on a classic course with tree lined holes and I’m going to be in trouble.

ckay

dphatt thanks I didn’t know they had influence to the data.

dphatt

ckay here are the settings for the balls. You can see that each ball is different

ckay

dphatt awesome thanks D

illest

dphatt I never knew they made a difference either; I assumed it was just to make it easier for tracking. Oops

Eddie

You are 9 degrees in to out and 9 degree positive on your attack angle, you already know this but the path and subsequent super aggressive AoA are the things to watch here if you are trying to diagnose how to play tighter courses.

With a fairway wood, do you have similar numbers?

ckay

Eddie Yup, I need to spend some time working getting to 4-6 AoA and get more neutral on path but Trackman rental is a bit pricey at $60/hr. With my 5 wood I am closer to +2 AoA but still in to out ₄-5.

KentonQ

Eddie those first 3 number are what jumped out to me as well.