Played my first round with them today. If you guys have been watching the s*#% show at Riviera today, you know what type of wind I got to play them in. So, not the best maiden voyage for them. However, I hit some shots with them today that made me think they will be sticking around in the bag. On full/flush shots, they feel just as good as my Miuras. On mishits, I think they are a bit more forgiving (but it's negligible I'm guessing). As for these compared to any of the prior generations, I think they are the best yet (and yes, I've had every iteration in my bag since the 745s).